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Forgive me if you are perceiving me as pestering you. That is not at all my intent, and if you ask I will refrain from messaging you. It’s that I believe as an admin you must have a tremendous store of knowledge, given that you are one of the leaders of this fandom and likely read a majority of it’s content. I truly wish for your perspective on this theory. One instance of connection could justly be labeled as a likely coincidence. I worked on providing a number of examples prior to posting so that the theory might at least prove worth toying with. Now, with a fourth connection and a number of others I’m polishing, so they may be presented coherently I need those with a stronger background to weigh in. I respect your need for time, my career is getting hectic at the moment and my ability to be on the fandom is lessening a bit. However, if able, please take a look. Thank you so very much.
No worries. I was referring to the theory that an understanding of CB/Amateur Radio usage can potentially yield results when playing with the idea that the Duffer Brothers have written into Stranger Things codes. Such a code caused a stir, as you well know when Stranger Things: Worlds Turned Upside Down was released accompanied by a key with which to break it.
If so many films cited by the Duffers (i.e. Close Encounters, Goonies, India Jones, etc.) included codes/puzzles, as did the mentioned text, why not the show itself?
The Maidenhead Locator System used with Dustin’s switch of frequency request, the blaring presence of Planck’s constant, and Terry Ives repetition of numbers have provided interesting results.
These results could be a chain of coincidences as Mr. Clarke stated to Joyce, but I wish to have your thoughts on one additional code. This time, as with Worlds Turned Upside Down it involves Morse code.
We, the viewers are presented with a lengthy view of the front side of the “heart to heart” letter. Not only is the text a bit different than Hopper’s speech, but Joyce’s punctuation is interesting. Why are there dashes “hyphens” in locations that are improper? If one gathers the whole of the the periods and dashes, including the dash in the last coaching tip and separates the groupings into Morse code one ends up with (-. ..- . -). (N,U,E,T) a seemingly non-sensible end product.
However, many have at one time or another created the encryption of using corollary digits to letters. (14, 21, 5, 20) is the result of conversion. Again, so what? In 1937, the Illinois State Police officer ‘Charlie’ Hopper devised the Ten-Code. There has been variance in interpretation and phrasing of the codes over the years, however one could loosely end up with (Message, Call, Relay, My location). In the context of where we are at with our show one could phrase the words as, “This is a message, sent to relay my location.”
These results may very well be a simple illusion. But in the context of 80s film, AV clubs, code containing texts, and a bit of fun, what if?
Thank you for commenting. All of this may end up rather as Murray’s ideas regarding Barb, close, but off in ways that end in false results. However, I strongly believe that if the book Stranger Things: Worlds Upside Down was akin to a Beta testing, perhaps it was intended to serve as a scaffolding for similar radio related decryption at a more complex level.
Hey there! I politely request that if time permits you read over my post, “Where Season 4 Will Be Filmed, Terry Ives Lives, And The Byers Family & El Moved.” I would very much appreciate your thoughts on this theory. Thank you so much!
Hello! I'm not sure if you've witnessed some of the discussions I've had with other users, but basically, I'm thinking about adopting a different policy when it comes to info from Suspicious Minds. Basically, events from the book will be added to pages while a template states their ambiguous canonicity. Regarding El's date of birth, after discussing it with another user, it was concluded that maybe both dates could be added to the infobox both because it would be informative, and because I can see this issue coming up quite often. The discrepancy can also be explained under the "Behind the scenes" section.
If you're curious about why I've changed my stance; I've been observing how other wikis handle expanded universe information, and also because I honestly don't have the will to get into discussions about it every single time. There's a lot of S3 stuff I'm currently working on and people are just going to keep adding the info anyway so... I relent. Only if you agree, of course. If you have any other ideas for handling the info, I'm all ears.
Also, I've been thinking over your opinion on not allowing GIFs on the gallery pages, and I think you're right. The reason being that users may upload GIFs in inconsistent qualities, and it may encourage people to upload stolen GIFs. This only applies to the episodes, though. I still think that having the GIFs in the promos section is still ok.
And finally, I've been thinking about retiring the family tree templates. My reasons being: 1) They are complicated to put together, 2) the families on the show are pretty simple so they aren't really necessary, 3) the templates don't show up on mobile, and over half of the wiki's views comes from mobile. Of course, I'd like to hear your thoughts as well.
Sorry for this being so long and hope you're doing well.
Thanks for asking me. Though I am spending sometime outside fandom to focus on real-life works, but I'm upto speed with the discussions.
Regarding El's age, I believe the best decision would be to create another section/sub-section to highlight the contradictory birth-dates with a reference link of the section added to the birth-year in the infobox, rather than add the date of birth of Suspicious Minds in the infobox. Check this one for example. It explains one of the many contradictions between the TV show and the books like- Jaime Lannister being the squire of Barristan Selmy in the TV show while the books stated otherwise. Now I know, I'm comparing it with "Game of Thrones" which has been adapted into a TV series, but Stranger Things is an original show and info, however subtly mentioned in the TV show, should be prioritized over other medias; in this context- Suspicious Minds. Info from Expanded Universe should be added in such a way that it doesn't retcon the TV show, cause the TV show is factually canon, while the characters' histories mentioned in the other books, comics or games (part of the EU) are not factually confirmed to be a part of the real timeline of the show. And yeah, there may possibly be limitless debates about our handling, but if you agree with this decision in creating another section, long term confusions like this can be averted.
Yeah, I agree too. GIFs in the gallery page, unless a part of the official promo/marketing, are best avoided because many users may be tempted to use altered GIFs of inconsistent qualities. A few exceptions, like the "animatronic head" in the Demogorgon's page could be made. I was also thinking of adding a few GIFs that display Eleven's powers in the "Powers and Abilities" section with more clarity (in the character's page), but that's a plan for another time.
About the family tree, while it's a bit disappointing, but it's resonable enough. I think we could perhaps add the family pages instead of the family trees. I don't know but it's your call. I ultimately agree about removing the family tree templates from the pages for now. (maybe not deleting the templates themselves, cause if fandom ever decides to add a support to the mobile devices in the future, they may come in handy.)
Furthermore, I applaud your decision to separate the physical form of the Mind Flayer from it's own page. While "The Spider Monster" may not be the official name, an info that could be added in the Trivia section, but it's much better to separate the two forms. I also was thinking if we could extend the creature infobox template to add another row, labelling it as "Forms" where the other form of the Mind Flayer could go, instead of adding it in the "Relations" label. Just my opinion though. I'm also still thinking whether merging the Spider Monster with the Hospital Monster would be a better idea or not.
Apology for the delayed response. And same as always, hope you're okay too.
Yeah, that could work. Just to clarify, are you proposing that we create sections detailing the characters' involvement in the novels? I've seen similar things on other wikis as well, like the Silent Hill Wiki and could indeed provide a simple solution. If we decide to go this route, should we give the comics, video games, and other media the same treatment? Alternatively, and what I originally planned, was that we could just simply add the info to the characters' histories like with the episodes, but mark the information with a template, similar to how they do it on the Metal Gear Wiki. However, I prefer your idea, as it would allow us to go out-of-universe and would cover all of the media the character appears in (by the way, we should probably update the "Appearances" section as well, but that's a conversation we can save for another time).
Alright, looks like that's settled. I'll go through the galleries and remove any GIFs as soon as I have more time. I'll also try to see if I can make some decent looking GIFs of Eleven using her powers.
I'm glad you agree! And yeah, we can still keep the templates around just in case. Are you saying we merge the Family pages with the character pages, or that we simply link to them from the character page? I can see the merits of both but I'd like some clarification.
Well, I'm not sure if it's the "official" name per se, but that was apparently the name the kids (whether that's referring to the actors or the characters wasn't clarified) gave a monster as stated in the final episode of the behind the scenes podcast. The monster was additionally referred to as such by Paul Graff in this interview. Since that's been the only name that's been given referring to that form specifically thus far, that was the name I went with. Adding the forms label on the creature infobox is a good idea. And while the Hospital Monster could probably be easily merged into the Spider Monster's article, I think it's fine having it's own page.
Yeah, I think creating sections would be the best route for all of us and I agree that it'd also help us cover all of the media each character appears in (including the comics, games etc). The Silent Hill Wiki is a great example indeed, but still we ought to remember that the TV series should get the higher priority. I also concur about updating the "Appearances" section.
Thanks for agreeing to the decision.
Maybe just linking them from the character page would do the work. It's your call.
Oh, I missed that. Thanks for clarifying the Spider Monster's name as well as adding the forms label. I also don't see much of a problem in keeping the Hospital Monster.
Moreover, do you think it is better to mention Roblox sponsorship as part of a Tie-in of Season 3's marketing rather than the event having it's own page?
Alright, guess it's settled. Also, should information from Darkness on the Edge of Town be included in the new section, or will there be an exception since it's been confirmed canon? And since it's been brought up, how should we update "Appearances"? Should we just create tables for all the different media similar to the episodes and comics? And yeah, I agree we should probably focus on TV series and finish adding S3 information to the articles before we start to tackle all the other media. I also think maybe creating a Canon Policy page akin to the one on Wookieepedia could also be helpful in the future.
Hmmm, maybe we could link them under "Familial"? Like, "See also: Hopper Family"?
I think I'd be better to simply mention it under marketing. I've also been thinking about creating a page similar to the Cultural Influences & References article that lists all the times ST has been mentioned in media, but that's something I'll have to tackle later.
Good to know. Personally, I think it would be a good idea to place Darkness on the Edge of Town in the new section too, that way, we can separate the TV series and all the other media without contradictions. I know it's a canon, but if we do make the book an exception, new/other users or contributors who might not know may get confused. (Most of the fans and audiences have watched the TV series, but I doubt whether the books are as popular. And the Duffer brothers or Shawn Levy or any of the actors haven't yet stressed any of the facts of the book) Also, if we actually do make this book an exception, there are certain conflicting details that may create problems. Like, how do we handle Subject Zero, the first test subject? Anyway, it's your choice. As long as we create new sections for the other books, comics and games, I'm all all for it. About the "Appearances", yeah, creating tables for all the different media would work. Besides, I definitely like your idea of creating a Canon Policy page.
Yeah, linking them under "Familial" also works.
I agree with the sponsorship keeping under the marketing. And yeah, creating a page to list all the ST appearances in media will definitely be under my radar too, a work for another time.
Yeah, that's probably for the best. I can already foresee the confusion it would cause. This way, things are simple and separate. Also, glad you agree about the tables, links, and the media page! I'll start on the new media tables shortly. As for the Canon Policy page, I don't know when I'll be able to start it, but I'll find a way.
Glad this has all finally been sorted out! And of course, thanks for all your insight.
Also, how do you suppose we handle the Dead by Daylight announcement? Someone had created pages for Nancy, Stave, and the Demogorgon but I deleted them since we don't create separate pages for each instance of a character in different media. They also created a page for Dead by Daylight, but I deleted that as well since it's irrelevant and we can simply link to the wiki. However, I was thinking we could create a page dedicated solely to the DLC and then maybe link to the article on the DBD wiki. What do you think?
Hello. I’m a fairly new member to the Stranger Things wiki and am greatly enjoying participating in the numerous activities that are available. I have made a few connections on the discussion boards and have added some small content to a few pages so far. I realized when browsing that an addition I contributed to “The Battle of Starcourt” page under the headline trivia had been removed. Knowing that we are all doing our best to create a comprehensive, informative, and enjoyable source of information means a great deal to me. I am sorry if I contributed in an incorrect manner. Would my addition have better been listed as a Theory heading with the disclaimer I have seen on a number of pages? Is the concept inappropriate for the page entirely and better suited to the comments, or discussion boards? We are all able to adjust the wiki’s content, and as an admin you have the right to redact as you see fit given your better understanding of this fandom. Please let me know your thoughts. I don’t wish to repeat mistakes and wonder what might be a more appropriate way to share my ideas.
Greetings, Lostknight27. Glad to know of your participation in the fandom community.
Thanks for coming up to me about that trivial detail. Yeah, I'd seen that you previoously brought up the map printed in Dustin's shirt. While that's quite a minute detail, it isn't important enough to be mentioned in the Trivia section of the Episode page. Instead, it'd rather be good enough to add it to the Trivia section of the character's page, in this context, Dustin's.
Nevertheless, you're always welcome to ask any questions regarding any confusions or such. Don't worry for mistakes such as this, sometimes even we, the admins, mix up things and retract back. In any case, hope you enjoy the wiki and contribute more. And apology for the delayed response.
I'm currently writing a character article on Nine and I even added an image of her. But whenever I try to search the image in "Instert media" from the infobox, I just get an image from Chapter Nine - The Gate. Is there a way to fix this litte problem of mine? Here is the image in question:
Hello, just wanted to let you know I'm trying out a new template for the Memorable Quotes sections and would like to get your opinion. You can see how the template looks on Suzie's and Alexei's pages. Do you think it looks alright? Or should we stick with the original quote template?
Yeah, the new Quote template looks great. It has got a simpler look but with a reduced quotation mark size, so I'm all for it. The use of both the templates, like the one you did for Suzie's page one at the Memorable Quote section and the other one at the beginning of the character bio, is also very appreciable. Good work! If you agree, we can start using the template at the other pages.
Thanks! I'm glad you like it, though I really just took the template from another wiki. Another good thing about the new template is that it will allow for a better format to record character conversations.
Also, someone recently brought up the year Hopper was born in the comments on his page. I'm afraid I still haven't had the time to read Darkness on the Edge of Town so it's up to you to decide if what they said is valid or not. I see no errors, but again, I haven't read the book so it's your call.
Well, I did check out Darkness on the Edge of Town again but I'm afraid there was nothing to suggest that Hopper was 18 years when he volunteered for joining the Army. (It could be assumed that he was 20 years during that time) So, I think it is better to follow Diane's quote from Chapter 11 regarding Hopper's age being 35 yrs during July 1977, because that's a relevant fact without contradiction or any assumption. Moreover, that brings his age to 41 during the first season. This is also seemingly accurate in regards to the early scripts of Montauk where it was said that he was in the early 40s.
Hi! I was wondering If I could add a secondary page connected to Timeline about the Expanded Universe's, similar to the Character/History pages. I was also wondering if I could separate both Comics and Books Timeline into 2 different sections
Well, I previously discussed with one of our more experienced admins ZeroZeroEight and we kind of considered the idea of creating a new page that connects all the comics and books' timeline. But since there are still a lot of Character/Histories, Location/Histories and events of Season 3 that need written in their respective pages, I suggest the idea for another time. Because we must always give priority to the TV series, first and foremost; not to mention the possibility that some of the comics/books are non-canon to the TV series.
But, then again, I'll let you know if we decide to begin working on the separate Timeline page.