@NightfallGorgodon517 MF is not regular dust, Vecna said that the MF was something extraordinary.
@MiniNinja11 Facts i'm surprised that Vecna is winning the poll, like would you be more scared if a serial killer was staring right at you or if a 50 story tall shadow spider monster was staring right at you....
@Dr BobRoss X Agreed
@Optimusprimebumblebee "Neo Astral-X" 123 @Fuser 18 You guys think a psychopath is scarier than a eldritch abomination?
Imo the Flayer is scarier cause Vecna is just a born psycho who loves torturing while the MF is a mysterious giant spider-shaped smoke monster/entity that tower over Hawkins.
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Eddie.
I'm pretty sure Vecnas still alive
Angela should burn the most
@DamasterW Sorry i don't know what a hate sink is, I just made this post cause I saw another post where the OP showed a poll on where Angela had more hated votes then any of theses character and I just made this post to defend them and why Angela is far more shit then them, Idk why people even compare her to Vecna, sure Vecna is cruel but at least he is cool and not cringe
Why are people hating on Brenner? He could have just saved his own life and let the military kill Eleven but instead he carried her until he dropped and then died.
@ReganX I won't say Brenner is a worse person, do you not remember what he did in S4 episode 8? He carried Eleven trying to save her from the military, he carried her until he dropped, he was even right about when she wasn't ready to face Vecna, everything he wanted to do was just to help Eleven.
@Acciocookies Do I look like I'm joking? Angela is a complete terrible character, what good has she brought to the series other than crying her eyes out? (something everyone loved), Vecna started S4 by killing innocent teens, hes one of the reasons that the series became interesting and that Max and Lucas could reunite again, hes the reason why El finally got her powers back, Brenner is one of the reasons the series started, if he didn't kidnap El then she prob wouldn't even have met Mike and they wouldn't have found Will and known anything about the upside down and there would be nobody to stop Vecna. Billy being a bully was helpful given that he knocked Steves lights out and because of that the kids were able to steal his car and kill the vines, and he gave the Mind Flayer a perfect vessel, Grigori gave us epic 1v1 spars between him and Hopper, I mean who doesn't like action? and If he wasn't there to stop Hopper from shutting down the machine then they never would have traveled to Russia and they never would have killed the Demodogs, Demogorgon and a part of the MF which kind of helped the Hawkins gang beat Vecna and allowed Dustin to have his final moments with Eddie hell they might have even saved Dustins life cause the Demobats might have killed him. As for Jason, if he didn't exist then Eddie might have never Joined the gang to kill Vecna and he would have just stayed in reefer ricks house, they probably wouldn't even have made the plan cause Dustin couldn't fight Demo-Bats all on his own hell if they weren't looking for Eddie then Dustin never would have thought of the gate theory and Nancy never would have seen what Vecna showed them which kind of gave them a headstart.
They are way more relevant to the plot than Angela, their characters have meanings while Angelas doesn't, see how Angelas character is shit compared to them?
Vecna is pure evil, that's what makes him a good villain and a really good character, villains need to be evil, now answer me this, who made season 4 more interesting and fun, Vecna or Angela? Then after you answer that question, tell me whos better between the two
@Romeo and Robot If Brenner was evil then he would have sold El to the military instead of risking his life saving her, he was even right when he said he wasn't ready to fight Vecna, and to be fair, Jason isn't evil but i still hate him just not as much as Angela
Lets go, got a lot of people trying to debate me
@Nah456 Brenner is evil, yet he sacrifices his life in episode 8 for Eleven, he could have gave her to the military and lived but he carried her till he dropped, the shock collar is to keep them under control so they won't go insane and start doing anything they want, he just wanted to help them
But even if he was evil, he made the story better, if it wasn't for him "kidnapping" Eleven then she probably wouldn't even have found Mike, that's what im talking about here, everyone is saying that Angela is better then everyone I listed but thats cap
Yes because i would be Jason and Jason is mental
Deaths obviously
I wouldn't care if Vecna is the big bad, he is still weaker then the MF given that the MF is his weapon but honestly it would be cool if the MF had another backstory
Billy, Vecna and Brenner
Why is everyone just picking the main cast
Prove to me that Angela is a better character then them, prove to me that Angela has better writing, looks and voice then them, sure she isn't as evil as them (except Brenner cause he ain't evil) but she is still an ass character, I would pick anyone of the five (Vecna, Brenner, Billy, Grigoriy and Jason) over Angela anyday, at least they made the story interesting and fun while Angela just made it cringe (except for the part where she started crying, that was funny)
He would have a extreme hacker girlfriend that would do anything for him, literally if anyone screwed with him on social medias then Dustin could just get Suzie to hack their accounts and delete them lol.
