Vickie

Hey there, and no I'm not trying to start a ship war, BUT--

HERE'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. I am a personal Ronance shipper :)

Why not Rockie? See, we haven't learned enough about Vickie, in my opinion, to really know what's her deal to be honest and hasn't had enough character development in my eyes... As for Robin, we've seen Robin go through some great character development with Nancy on cases and such.

BUT I do not see anything wrong with Rockie!! I think it can be cute if Vickie has more of a development in Season 5, but as we know, Ronance probably can't be canon anyways, but we can dream. It'll likely end in Jancy, but that's okay. I still see Robin getting a potential happy ending too.

Ronance in my opinion though; Nancy and Robin have been together doing various stuff for investigation, and not only does Robin not stutter around Nancy (well she does ramble, but she also rambles around those she's comfortable with), but she also stood up and protected her against their denied entry to the facility when they were trying to reach Victor Creel. Also Robin's willingness to help Nancy with a lot of things is also a little bit of a sign. Sure they do have a good friendship, but I can't help but feel Ronance. Now, as I said, that is my personal opinion. BUT, what's your opinions on Rockie and Ronance? What do you prefer?

And ALSO Robin having to clearly state that Steve and her were just completely platonic, which, is 100% real, I love their platonic duo. <3

Note- I have tried to make this post as neutral as possible without picking sides. As you might infer from my username, I am a Byler shipper however I have taken some help from some of my Mileven friends in order to gather evidence for their ship. Please do not start a fight and be kind. This is purely my opinion and it’s ok if you have others.

1.In favour of a Mileven endgame-

Why would the Duffers make a traumatised boy like his best friend for 2 seasons only for a Mileven endgame?

Here are my points-

I) The Duffers have emphasised on the fact that Will is going to be a major part of season 5 (finally). Going along with the path that they have chosen for the last few seasons, it would be plausible for Will’s storyline to consist of lot of angst and drama this season.

With many suspecting the connection between Vecna and Will might be greater for the finale, it would make sense for him to torment Will about his insecurities about Mike. This will probably be made greater given the fact that Eleven and Mike date again.

This might also release some inner anger from Will and give way to a possible villain arc. Will could team up with Vecna, since it had been hinted in Season 4 that Will and Vecna had a lot of similarities as a child. Mileven happening could be an awakening to a villain arc and unleash a lot of possible character development.

As for Mike, we might see him in the final season trying to figure out his feelings for Eleven. While he couldn’t say ‘love’ in the majority of season 4 to Eleven, it could be interesting for him to figure out himself and find the inner meaning of the word.

Also, the Duffers have said that they would focus on the plot this season. They said that they wanted to reduce screen time and really focus on the original aspects of stranger things. This could mean that they can’t give enough screen time to two love triangles (Stancy, Jancy and Byler,Mileven). So they just might go with the easier route and make Mileven endgame in order to cut screen time.

However, even if Mileven is made to be endgame, I do think that Will will have a sort of confession scene to Mike. Mike can either choose to accept the feelings or he could reject the feelings for Will to grow depressed again.

Do I think that Mileven could be endgame? Maybe? If set right by the Duffers, it could be a satisfying ending to the series. Even though I do prefer Byler, I am going to be alright if Mileven is made endgame.

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This is in favour of a Byler endgame-

Why would the Duffers make Mileven a canon ship for 4 seasons only for Byler to be endgame?

Here are my points-

One of the main reasons why fans love the show so much is because we get to see characters grow and develop into mature human beings. For example, in season 4, we saw Max trying to cope up with the fact that Billy is dead.

With that in mind, it would make sense for the final season to conclude with Eleven figuring out who she really is as a person.

In season 3, Eleven didn’t know that she could have her own preferences and like whatever she wants to. She didn’t know that she could choose and like her own clothes, nevertheless that she could like the boy that she wanted.

Max was the person who showed Eleven how to live a life without boys. She also looked a little bit free and happier with her surroundings after she broke up with Mike in season 3. Mike also doesn’t seem to treat Eleven the way that she wants him too.

As for Mike, it’s evident that he doesn’t really know how to reciprocate his feelings for Eleven. After seeing his parents, he knows the impact of the word ‘love’ and he doesn’t really know if he’s ready to tell Eleven that yet. With the whole show being set in the 80’s, it would be interesting to see how Mike would react to his feelings (if he has any) towards Will. Maybe an ally (Robin or Vickie) could help Mike figure out his feelings.

While I’m not saying that Mileven is toxic, it’s definitely good for both Mike and Eleven if they take a break from dating. Eleven definitely needs some time on her own to understand the world and find her independence before getting into a relationship. Mike needs some time to define his relationship towards Eleven and Will.

And I’m not saying that Byler is going to be any better. Will already has a broken heart due to seeing his best friend/crush replace him with a girl that he had known for one week. While his broken heart might be fixed if Byler happens, I kind of get the toxicity vibes from Mike( in a way ig?). But Mike definitely needs a person who he could depend on and that person could be Will.

I don’t think that Byler is going to be a full-blown relationship due to the restrictions in the 1980’s and screen time in Season 5. We probably would have a coming out scene where Will tells about his sexuality to few close people like Jonathan, Joyce and Hopper.

Do I think that Byler is going to be endgame? As much as I hate to admit it as a Byler shipper, the chances are pretty slim( 15%?). And then again I don’t think that Mileven is going to be endgame either. I think that the Duffers are going to make neither endgame.

Whatever the Duffers do though, I hope that they give a satisfactory ending to this wonderful series!

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What are your opinions on what ship is going to be endgame?

(Please don’t take this the wrong way. I genuinely want to know people’s reasonings for liking this ship!)

Why do you ship Ronance? /gen

Like, it’s okay ship, but Vickie is RIGHT THERE ARGH—

Please tell me, I’m honestly wondering 😭

I came across a post that said that Robin and Steve were supposed to be a couple in season 3. It was only on the day of filming the fourth episode the Duffers and Maya Hawke decided that Steve and Robin wouldn't be a good match due to their personalities. The Duffers then had a long meeting about this.

So I was wondering, if Steve and Robin had gotten together as per the original script, what would've changed?

For starters, Steve and Robin would have probably been together for season 4 and hence Steve and Nancy wouldn't have had a few romantic moments. The whole talk of 'six little kids' wouldn't had taken place. Sure, Steve and Robin could've broken up off-screen in the period of time between season 3 and 4. If Steve and Robin had gotten together then Stancy would probably not be an option of becoming endgame.

The Duffers and the actor who plays Vickie in the show said that Vickie would have a more prominent role in season 5. If Stobin existed, then Vickie would have not been added to the cast. It would have been a waste of screen time if Vickie was added to the cast if Robin didn't require a love interest. Unless if Vickie has a role that must be played by a new character, I don't see her being in the show if Stobin was canon.

In conclusion, I do think that Robin being gay brought a positive impact on the show. It allowed for more LGBTQ+ representation. It was certainly a nice twist to the show! I would love to see if Robin and Will interact next season.

Note- I do not ship Stobin romantically. I just saw this on a twitter post and I found it interesting to discuss about.

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People saying that vickie is lesbian when she is canonically confirmed bisexual

There is nothing wrong with being lesbian but I need a canon bi character otherwise I will be sad :(

Also sorry for the delay

This post is for @Cherryslurpie11 , @Maneskinfan and @KawaiiCrystalGamer

I could not find much but I made a collage

For @Maneskinfan she is confirmed bisexual :)

Enjoy <3 let me know in comments if you want a character!

Do you guys like?

Oh my god- Sorry for not making these in like 2 months! Anyways let's just get started! Also Happy April fools!

Ft: Idk everyone?

Will: Today, Eleven said a swear word, so Robin said that they were going to wash Eleven's mouth out with soap. Eleven replied, “It’s okay, I like the taste of soap”. Turns out, they’ve been putting soap on their lips to blow bubbles.

(Wtf-)

Murray: *shoves their hand in the slot of a toaster*

Hopper: …

Murray: …I get confused sometimes.

Hopper: Me too.

(Guess he wants to toast his hands now i guess)

Erica: I want to be like a caterpillar.

Eleven: Explain.

Erica: Eat a lot, sleep for a while, wake up beautiful.

Dustin: You know they have a lifespan of a week, right?

Erica:

Erica: That's just another highlight!

Jonathan, about to leave the house: Don’t spend all day watching YouTube, okay?

Dustin: I FORGE MY OWN PATH!!

Police: You’re under arrest for trying to carry three people on a single motorcycle.

Will, with Mike and Dustin behind them: Wait, what do you mean THREE?!

Police: Yes…three.

Will: Oh, my God— What the f**k!?

Police: Wha-

Will: Lucas F**KING FELL OFF!

Vickie: You can de-escalate literally any situation by asking ‘are we about to kiss?’

Vickie: Doesn't work with getting out of speeding tickets, though.

Robin: I CAN'T DO IT!

Erica, laughing: I CAN'T EITHER!

Robin: I CANT FUCKING DO IT ANYMORE

Vickie: WELL I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, YOU CAN EITHER GIVE UP NOW, OR YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT. BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU, AND WE KNOW YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT US.

Robin:

Robin: I appreciate it,

Robin: BUT LOOK WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH-

Joyce: Robin-

Robin: YOU GOTTA DRAW THE LINE SOMEWHERE!

Lucas: Robin we gotta-

Robin: YOU GOTTA DRAW A FUCKING LINE IN THE SAND. YOU GOTTA MAKE A STATEMENT.

Robin: YOU GOTTA LOOK INSIDE YOURSELF AND SAY 'What am I willing to put up with today?'

Robin, motioning to Steve: NOT FUCKING THIS!

Hopper: What is this!?

Mike: That’s the weight of guilt. Give in to the nice side. Help those unfortunate, and make the guilt go away, my friend.

Hopper: Ow! Make it stop!

Mike: Surrender to your kindness, Hopper. It’s nice to be nice.

Hopper: Your guilt is strong, my friend. But it is no match for the power of my selfishness!

(Why is this accurate?)

Joyce: So, did everyone learn their lesson?

Murray: No.

Max: I did not.

Mike: I may have actually forgotten one.

Jonathan: Also no.

Joyce: Oh good, neither did I.

Will: *Exhausted sigh*

Eddie: Clownery. Tomfoolery. Absolute f**kery, I am going to revoke your life privileges.

Lucas: *cooking*

Eleven: *kicks down door*

Eleven: *grabs knife from Lucas's hand*

Eleven: WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR?

Lucas:

Lucas: What.

Dustin: They're trying to tell you they want to cook.

Max: Hey, are you free?

Dustin: No, I’m expensive.

Fin :D

In my opinion, I think Robin is a pretty cool, amazing, funny, nice and brave young woman. My favorite moment was when she came out to Steve and told him that she was a lesbian and had a crush on Vickie. She's a brilliant, funny and well-written comic relief character and well-played by Maya Hawke! 💝👩🏼🏳️‍🌈💕♀️

Vobin is the ship between Vickie and Robin Buckley.

Credits to Emeri on Instagram!