The Spider Monster

As it has already become known, in season 5, the Mind Flayer will have two forms. The first is his true (shadow) form and the second is his "avatar". Judging by the concept art, his avatar will be very similar to the Spider Monster from season 3. And here the question is whether it will be his old resurrected body or a new one. I am more inclined to the first theory, since in season 3, the Mind Flayer needed a lot of time to infect several dozen people with his particles. Although, given that the gap between seasons 4 and 5 will be at least 1 year, it is possible that during this year the Shadow Monster will have time to infect enough people.

Imagine if monsters from all seasons would return in Season 5. Demogorgons, demodogs, demobats, Spider Monster, Vecna, vines and the Mind Flayer himself!

I have a theory about this. Firstly, we were not shown what happened to the Spider Monster after season 3. Most likely, his body was examined by the government led by Brenner and Owens. And we should also not forget about the part of the Mind Flayer that remained in the Spider Monster and, as we know, fragments of the Mind Flayer do not die after the gate is closed, but simply fall asleep. Secondly, from Vecna’s prophecy we know about a certain huge creature with an open mouth, but the Mind Flayer in his particle form has no trace of a mouth.And what if the Spider Monster came to life when the gate opened?

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Considering if the mind flayer is not controlled by vecna.

Also im am not shipping them bouth.

What if Vecna was not born but people still had powers? and the mind flayer would be a separate entity. the whole timeline would be the same until s3. where eleven would join the spider monster secretly. her friends feeling betrayed started to throw firecrackers at El. so eleven makes a portal into the upside down big enough for the spider monster and her to fit. Eight months later eleven and the mind flayer start opening portals like Vecna did in s4. This is where I need your help. Give me ideas for the ending, character ideas, plot ideas, fan art, anything.

An entity that is made off human flesh. with controll over half the town.

Or some guys with firecrackers?

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The mind flayer is a separate entity from Henry. henry is not born but people still have powers. heather is also in love with Billy. and when they get injected with the mind flayer they somehow get powers. billy then starts to teach Heather how to use her powers too. then when Heather is starting to get melted Billy steps in to tell the spider monster that she somehow got Telacanesis. surprised, the spider monster stops the melting prosses leaving her with melted parts of her body. then heather, Billy, and the spider monster go to the Starcort Mall to kill eleven. but this backfires on the spider monster when Billy is tricked by eleven to turn back to the light. the spider monster sensing elevens manipulations, stabs him in the sides, presumably killing Billy. the spider monster then makes a portal to the upside down. then the spider monster grabs Billy and Heather in the upside down. 8 months later Billy has turned into Vecna. targeting people with depressing pasts to open portals to this world. heather also helps Billy in killing his victims and gathering the Demogorgon and demo bat army.

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Which one is better? the first one or this one.

I'm leaning toward this one IMO.

This might be in my fan fic....

This idea would make the mind flyer an entity not controlled by vecna. also, vecna would not exist. and Terry ive's would be a temporary test subject instead of having her brain fried. years later she would try and convince eleven to join her and the mind flayer. this backfired and she was trapped in the upside down like Henry/vecna. now this is what you will decide. what happens next? will eleven find out Terry is her mother? will the mind flayer take over? You choose in the chat.

That’s Carnage from Venom 2: Let there be Carnage movie